PM: Emancipation for all ethnic origins

[TheSuperNova]

chupid indian people again; most of them don't realize that the handout/ gimme gimme syndrome is a black people only thing

Exactly...and if I was Manning and I give you $1mil for your event and rest $1.1mill on another and after you take the cash you run and bawl discrimination I'll blank yuh kant next year and donate some newspaper clippings

AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS......RIGHT?

[r3iXmann]

rodfarva, *ziiiiiiiing* apparently you're not following what I typed, so lemme break it down, when racism is being highlighted particularly by East Indians, who is at the forefront of such a cry? It's the educated, well-off so called "brahmins" who write newspaper articles and give news conferences, they are also the same ones who cry about discrimination/ethnic cleansing in the public service, fact is they don't want/desire/need to work there, but yet still cry about oppression whist eating off the fat of the land...get it?

Agreed 100%

[DrunkenMaster16]

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[Alpha_2nr]

eriously, shut the hell up, get up and go to work!!!!

Why?

Why work when you getting a brand new roof (red painted galvanised too?) over yuh shack for free?

Work is for peons.

You are speaking about the public sector as though its privately owned and operated. Its not. ANYONE is entitled to his/her opinion about it.

Who gives a flying-fig about the public sector anyways? See point above^^^ about work.

he has to because Trinidadians of East Indian ancestry ....wait scratch that............Indians here see race in everything once the PNM is in power it goes like this "mi son is ah doctor now yuh know but how much Indian it have in de Police ??

So there's no discrimination in at all? I'm sure there is in at least a few of the cases.

Thing is though, that some of the "gripers" (wait...most of them...like Pand-ay-hole) begin to take the claims a little too far, such that if there IS a legitimate one, it's just like a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

[rodfarva]

Thing is though, that some of the "gripers" (wait...most of them...like Pand-ay-hole) begin to take the claims a little too far, such that if there IS a legitimate one, it's just like a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

completely agree with this statement.

[redmanjp]

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009 ... ic-origins

Prime Minister Patrick Manning said that Emancipation was for all, despite ethnic origins and so was Indian Arrival Day. He was delivering a speech last Friday at the annual dinner of the National Association for the Empowerment of Black People (NAEAP) at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya. He said, This is not African Emancipation Day. Emancipation in T&T, as in other countries, has most importantly also been a struggle spanning generations of all origins.

“Citizens of every origin have been involved in the emancipation of Trinidad and Tobago. It is the same for (Indian) Arrival Day. We all came from distant shores and built this place that is now our home. We all arrived and have all been emancipated by our collective efforts. Let our history and our continuing common struggle weld us further together.

There is no other way to face the challenges that are before us,â€

so manning said 1 thing but now rowley saying the opposite


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/emancipation-day-to-be-renamed-african-emancipation-day-6.2.1979885.a3c8e1abd7

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley announced Cabinet has approved a change of name for the Emancipation holiday. 

This August 1st, the new name will be African Emancipation Day. 

He made the comment at a media conference a short while ago.

Prime Minister Rowley said, "The time has come for us to make it quite clear what emancipation means; and who is being emancipated. "

He said he noticed internationally, others were, " attempting to climb onto the Emancipation bandwagon and attempting to add appendages to it. "

He said since Trinidad and Tobago led the world in making Emancipation Day a holiday, he wanted to make it clear that "emancipation in Trinidad and Tobago is as a result of the emancipation of slaves. "

"There's no comparison between slavery and any other form of human indignation," Rowley said. "We are descendants of slaves. We have a duty to preserve our history, or legacy and make our claim without apologies to anyone."

[The_Honourable]

Sounds good...

Truth is in trini politics, Afro get symbolism, Syrian/Lebanese get finance.

[Habit7]

Manning also created Arrival Day and Panday changed it to Indian Arrival Day.

If we reach to the point where it is an insult for Massy Stores to advertise beef on Divali, I am sure this African Emancipation Day change will upset somebody.

[Arcmanov]

Well played boy Keith.

I might just vote PNM for spite in 2025.

[maj. tom]

Politics of the day. Manning said what he said for the political landscape of the day. And anyways the Slavery Abolition Act was passed on August 1st 1834 and emancipation was set exactly 4 years later. So this is entirely accurate and proper recognition of our history is important.

[Habit7]

Manning also created Arrival Day and Panday changed it to Indian Arrival Day.

If we reach to the point where it is an insult for Massy Stores to advertise beef on Divali, I am sure this African Emancipation Day change will upset somebody.

We know it’s about African history
Kambon disagrees with move to rename Emancipation holiday:

Michelle Loubon Apr 19, 2024

The Emancipation Day public holiday is to be renamed African Emancipation Day.

This was announced yesterday by Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley during a post-Cabinet media confe­rence at the Office of the Prime Minister, Port of Spain.

The Prime Minister said it was a Cabinet decision.

The day is a commemoration of the emancipation of slaves on August 1, 1834.

Rowley said: “The time has come for us to make it quite clear what emancipation means and who is being emancipated.”

He said he had noticed internationally that others were “attempting to climb onto the Emancipation bandwagon and attempting to add appen­dages to it”.

He said since the country had led the world in making Emancipation Day a public holiday, he wanted to make it clear that “emancipation in Trinidad and Tobago is as a result of the emancipation of slaves.

“There’s no comparison between slavery and any other form of human indigna­tion,” the Prime Minis­ter said. “We are descendants of slaves. We have a duty to preserve our history, our le­gacy, and make our claim without apologies to anyone.”

‘We did not see the need for the change’

Former chairman of the Emancipation Support Committee of Trinidad and Tobago (ESCTT) Khafra Kambon, who had lobbied for Emancipation Day as a national holiday, said society was already aware that the holiday was rooted in African history and the African community.

Speaking with the Express by telephone, he said Emancipation Day had national and international appeal.

Kambon said of the decision to rename the holiday: “I would not have gone for it. If they do it, they do it. I like things that add value. I did not even know a decision was made. I know there were discussions.

“I don’t think any­body who has been associa­ted with the decision wants it to be seen as exclusionary. I don’t think anybody did it with the intention of saying it’s only for Afro-Trinida­dians. The whole country knows it’s rooted in African history. It’s well established as Emancipation Day.”

He added: “There was never any confusion in anybody’s mind as to what the celebration is about. It has always been associated with and about the African community.

“It’s totally understood it’s a national celebration about a commemoration of emanci­pation of Afri­cans. It has been that way ever since. It’s about my history and I relate to it. The whole community should celebrate without lo­sing sight of it.”

He said: “Are we saying to a non-African, they should not get involved in it? That’s not the message we want to send. But by its definition and its organisation, we know it is rooted in African history and the slavery experience.

“We have never been exclusionist. But people are conscious of the fact that what they are participating in is an important landmark in our history. Everybody knows what race it’s related to.”

Kambon added: “Nothing is wrong with the terminology. But it has been brought in after something has been established. For 200 years, it has been going without a change. It’s not a change that we asked for. We did not see the need for the change.”

Also asked about the decision to rename Emancipation Day, Aakeil Murray, lecturer at the Caribbean Civilisation Unit, Faculty of Huma­nities and Education, The University of The West Indies (The UWI), St Augustine, said yesterday: “I don’t have enough facts. But what I can say, it’s a positive in terms of helping people of African descent to to be reminded they have been emancipated from the bonds of slavery and oppression.

“It’s a symbolic way of strengthening our connection with our culture, history and identity.”
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... d7d60.html

[Skanky]

Now that this has been done there suddenly is fresh, clean air for all to breathe(not the usual smoke), water is flowing through every tap in trinidad ,the roads have all been miraculously fixed ,crime has completely stopped and food prices have dropped to new historic lows.Not to mention flooding had stopped completely.

They're doing great things the rulers of trinidad. Top priority this! This is exactly where they need to focus their energy so the people of trinidad could benefit the most.

[aaron17]

Now that this has been done there suddenly is fresh, clean air for all to breathe(not the usual smoke), water is flowing through every tap in trinidad ,the roads have all been miraculously fixed ,crime has completely stopped and food prices have dropped to new historic lows.Not to mention flooding had stopped completely.

They're doing great things the rulers of trinidad. Top priority this! This is exactly where they need to focus their energy so the people of trinidad could benefit the most.

They found out what was killing the babies. They fired the ppl who was in charge. They solved the divers tragedy.

[Habit7]

I was under the impression that all those issues were being deal with separately.

[Dizzy28]

I see no reason why the name change should be controversial.
Simple announcement, simple changes, no one injured

[alfa]

I thought it was common knowledge to everyone from primary school that emancipation day was for Africans. To now put African in front of the previous name makes no difference to me but seems redundant and if I may go out on a limb even political to fool the people into thinking PNM doing something extra to raise black consciousness. But I have no objection to it, it's still a holiday and if I wuking well extra time

[zoom rader]

I thought it was common knowledge to everyone from primary school that emancipation day was for Africans. To now put African in front of the previous name makes no difference to me but seems redundant and if I may go out on a limb even political to fool the people into thinking PNM doing something extra to raise black consciousness. But I have no objection to it, it's still a holiday and if I wuking well extra time

Dude Africans are not yet emancipated.

They owned by 1% and PNM

[pugboy]

that’s the sad reality
the ppl who making the most fuss are likely the least emancipated

[bluefete]

Straight down the middle and the divide is complete.

Time to wake up and smell the Milo.

[triniterribletim]

Wasn't it always African Emancipation Day? That's what it always said on calendars and diaries back in the day.

[greggle71]

Whilst I have no issue with the change, these kinds of announcements are usually prompted by some kinda of lobbying group, I haven’t picked up that call from any NGO or interest group.

Ah well tomorrow is Monday

[mkhitaryan888]

I see nothing wrong with calling it African Emancipation Day.

Is it a pointless move? Yes.

Is it factually accurate? Yes.

There are more important things to discuss and be concerned about.

[The_Honourable]

I see nothing wrong with calling it African Emancipation Day.

Is it a pointless move? Yes.

Is it factually accurate? Yes.

There are more important things to discuss and be concerned about.

Well said.

Wonder how long again people will get caught up on symbolisms.

[zoom rader]

PNM always fighting down the Black man and keeping us in the back room.

Ironically a Black supposed party but keep Black people in chains.

Emancipation day is a gimmick to feed Black folk scraps.

[ProtonPowder]

The name change is a strategic move by cabinet to stoke racial talk 16 months before the next general election. It would have been too obvious if it came next year.

Keep fighting on race and forget that the war is really about class.

[zoom rader]

The name change is a strategic move by cabinet to stoke racial talk 16 months before the next general election. It would have been too obvious if it came next year.

Keep fighting on race and forget that the war is really about class.

Remember when Rowlee and Hindz came up with Rowlee to black to be PM?

Shows u how stupid this country really is .

Africans still enslaved as they kill out each other over who is 6 or 7 and who can't walk on my streets.

Jack arse country filled with idiots

[Habit7]

The name change is a strategic move by cabinet to stoke racial talk 16 months before the next general election. It would have been too obvious if it came next year.

Keep fighting on race and forget that the war is really about class.

Remember when Rowlee and Hindz came up with Rowlee to black to be PM?

the maths not mathsing

Jan 24 2014

The key question that PNM party stalwarts will have to answer is: should Dr Keith Rowley be acclaimed for another four year term or should someone else be elected as leader If the latter is said to be desirable or electorally necessary, what reasons are being adduced to support this change Some of Dr Rowley's critics claim sotto voce that he is a tad too "black" for a country that is ethnically structured in the way that Trinidad and Tobago is. The view definitely exists both inside and outside the party that a paler face is required if the PNM is going to be regarded as being adequately diversified.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... e.amp.html

Feb 5 2014

Dr Keith Rowleys dark skin was cited as the only ground of objection to his leading Trinidad and Tobago as prime minister, former senator Fitzgerald Hinds said on Wednesday night.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 9.amp.html

[ProtonPowder]

Oh look at that, PNM leaning into race talk a year and a half before GE in 2014.

Timeline also reflects in this time around. The idiots in the UNC going to fall for the PNM bait again and again, time after time.

And if they don't, the media can fabricate another blank/black man talk again.