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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby 88sins » August 12th, 2020, 12:10 pm

Redman wrote:Why is it BS to have aPOV at variance with yours?

The article puts forward substantiated info that swings this away from it being as clear cut as you would like it.

So while it LOOKED terrible- the evidence and conviction of 4 officers requires a higher bar.

Read the entire article.

To the extent that the info used stands up in court-the outcome of this isnt that clear.

It's not BS to have a different point of view, but it's BS to say outright that the accused are entirely innocent of involvement with his death, particularly when one man had his knee on the deceased's neck for almost 9 minutes. Especially when considering, that in the moments leading up to a short while before he died, the deceased was alive, during which he claimed respiratory distress and during the time while he was claiming such respiratory distress his claims were ignored and a knee was kept on his neck till he stopped moving and breathing and the knee was kept in place on his neck for a little while after he expired.

If a person is on medication with high risk side effects, and you place you hands on that persons neck, and they say they cannot breathe, and you ignore that they cannot breathe & keep your hands there till they stop breathing or moving, and you keep your hands on their neck for 1 minute after they stop breathing or moving, to then claim that you not implicated in that persons death would at best a mistake. You are implicated, because there is no way to be 110% certain and without doubt that your hands didn't cause or trigger the reaction that caused his death.

We not looking at how it looks, not studying what the emotional mob sees & says, just watching the facts & that alone. & the fact is, putting yuh knee on a man neck while his hands are cuffed behind him & he lying face down on the ground is a bit excessive in terms of use of force and may have been unnecessary, and the question of whether or not that excessive force had a role to play in his death is what's in question

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby Redman » August 12th, 2020, 12:30 pm

Agreed- but the physical evidence as laid out again brings the officers actions towards being less unreasonable than originally believed.

When taken into context of his toxicology report and the transcripts of the dialogue -start to finish.....the LEO may very well get a soft sentence.

It isnt a certain case at all.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby 88sins » August 12th, 2020, 3:51 pm

Redman wrote:Agreed- but the physical evidence as laid out again brings the officers actions towards being less unreasonable than originally believed.

When taken into context of his toxicology report and the transcripts of the dialogue -start to finish.....the LEO may very well get a soft sentence.

It isnt a certain case at all.

If they do get a soft sentence, it'll be thanks to the prosecutors.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby Redman » August 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm

Early on this I read that that knee that Chauvin used is part of their legal restraints.

If it is so .....at that dept.....

The laws is really arseholish at times

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 24th, 2020, 9:09 pm

White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs

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RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 24th, 2020, 9:18 pm

zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs


Yeh but did he die?

Why was he resisting arrest?

Was he going for a weapon in the car?

What were the events that led up to this?

Does he have a criminal history?

Why are those other pests cursing the officers?

Did any of them put their knee on the “suspect”?


Zoom,

Lets’s not jump to race conclusions, let’s wait for the investigation process.

Come on, u mean that people want more iphones, TVs and sneakers? Stores haven’t recovered yet.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 24th, 2020, 9:28 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs


Yeh but did he die?

Why was he resisting arrest?

Was he going for a weapon in the car?

What were the events that led up to this?

Does he have a criminal history?

Why are those other pests cursing the officers?

Did any of them put their knee on the “suspect”?


Zoom,

Lets’s not jump to race conclusions, let’s wait for the investigation process.

Come on, u mean that people want more iphones, TVs and sneakers? Stores haven’t recovered yet.
Do the net searches.

He was parting a female fight, totally innocent killied by white racist cops.

His 3 kids was in the car and the race police still shot him in the car with his little kids.

No weapons was found.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 24th, 2020, 11:20 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs


Yeh but did he die?

Why was he resisting arrest?

Was he going for a weapon in the car?

What were the events that led up to this?

Does he have a criminal history?

Why are those other pests cursing the officers?

Did any of them put their knee on the “suspect”?


Zoom,

Lets’s not jump to race conclusions, let’s wait for the investigation process.

Come on, u mean that people want more iphones, TVs and sneakers? Stores haven’t recovered yet.
Do the net searches.

He was parting a female fight, totally innocent killied by white racist cops.

His 3 kids was in the car and the race police still shot him in the car with his little kids.

No weapons was found.


Zoom,

This sounds fishy. We must wait for the investigation to determine what really transpired.

I just turned on CNN, shouldn’t this be headline news? Where is BLM and their violent riots?

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 24th, 2020, 11:25 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs


Yeh but did he die?

Why was he resisting arrest?

Was he going for a weapon in the car?

What were the events that led up to this?

Does he have a criminal history?

Why are those other pests cursing the officers?

Did any of them put their knee on the “suspect”?


Zoom,

Lets’s not jump to race conclusions, let’s wait for the investigation process.

Come on, u mean that people want more iphones, TVs and sneakers? Stores haven’t recovered yet.
Do the net searches.

He was parting a female fight, totally innocent killied by white racist cops.

His 3 kids was in the car and the race police still shot him in the car with his little kids.

No weapons was found.


Zoom,

This sounds fishy. We must wait for the investigation to determine what really transpired.

I just turned on CNN, shouldn’t this be headline news? Where is BLM and their violent riots?
https://youtu.be/5WZeT9vr2-g

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby killercow » August 25th, 2020, 12:14 am

zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs
So I just watched the video. Aren't all police over there equipped with tasers? Why didn't they just tase him? + they had all that time walking behind him to subdue him. And 7 bullets to the back!? ... Wheyz I really do hope the officer behind the trigger loss he wuk (for starters).

Zoom bai if iz one ting I agree with yuh on iz not living ova dey. Once yuh not white yuh considered black and you WILL be a target. I remember 7 - 9 years ago, every single time I travelled with a beard (and seemingly appearing like a Middle-Eastern Muslim) I was subjected to a 'random' search. I am yet to be searched whilst not sporting a beard. I will choose Canada or New Zealand any day! I guess some people will not understand your stance unless they themselves were subject to scrutiny.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 12:38 am

killercow wrote:
zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs
So I just watched the video. Aren't all police over there equipped with tasers? Why didn't they just tase him? + they had all that time walking behind him to subdue him. And 7 bullets to the back!? ... Wheyz I really do hope the officer behind the trigger loss he wuk (for starters).

Zoom bai if iz one ting I agree with yuh on iz not living ova dey. Once yuh not white yuh considered black and you WILL be a target. I remember 7 - 9 years ago, every single time I travelled with a beard (and seemingly appearing like a Middle-Eastern Muslim) I was subjected to a 'random' search. I am yet to be searched whilst not sporting a beard. I will choose Canada or New Zealand any day! I guess some people will not understand your stance unless they themselves were subject to scrutiny.
I have never been to the US and I will not travel there. I don't even have a US visa and I will not pay for one.

I visit Europe often and prefer to travel there, plus they are much more cultured and visa free

I have never had a problem in Europe. I have been to some pure white countries like Norway & Denmark and they don't really care if you are coloured.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 12:46 am

Redman and Max support these racist white cops

BBC news

https://youtu.be/FVBMGAjMLpo

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby maj. tom » August 25th, 2020, 6:56 am

Raw footage. Warning graphic violence. Man being shot in the back, not once, but about 6 or 7 times. Police Officer looked real casual as he was pumping those bullets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby Redman » August 25th, 2020, 7:23 am

zoom rader wrote:White race cops shoots unarmed black man in the back 7 times for nothing.

Redman and Max all yuh like licking white balls

Riots again


https://youtu.be/tbVz2f1YBAs


We need a yawn emoji.

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RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 25th, 2020, 8:00 am

zoom rader wrote:Redman and Max support these racist white cops

BBC news

https://youtu.be/FVBMGAjMLpo


Zoom,

Is every white cop that shoots a black man racist?

If it were a black cop shooting a white man, would that be racist as well?

Remember, the stats prove everything.

Now from the video its looks unjust.

We need to analyze the situation Zoom, let the courts handle it and take action as necessary.

Again, people put themselves in these positions by not following the instructions of the officers to stop.

Kudos to the officers for rendering immediate medical assistance.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 8:08 am

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Redman and Max support these racist white cops

BBC news

https://youtu.be/FVBMGAjMLpo


Zoom,

Is every white cop that shoots a black man racist?

If it were a black cop shooting a white man, would that be racist as well?

Remember, the stats prove everything.

We need to analyze the situation Zoom, let the courts handle it.
Just like trini pnm covid they hide the real stats.

In the age of smart phones all these racist cops are been expose.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby elec2020 » August 25th, 2020, 8:13 am

maj. tom wrote:Raw footage. Warning graphic violence. Man being shot in the back, not once, but about 6 or 7 times. Police Officer looked real casual as he was pumping those bullets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


Shouldn't have gotten into the car but imo that is excessive force. Police could claim he was reaching for something in the car though. If this was pre george floyd this case would be overlooked. But post george floyd will force the mayor/governor to respond to the people (there was a riot after the shooting).

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 8:45 am

elec2020 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Raw footage. Warning graphic violence. Man being shot in the back, not once, but about 6 or 7 times. Police Officer looked real casual as he was pumping those bullets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


Shouldn't have gotten into the car but imo that is excessive force. Police could claim he was reaching for something in the car though. If this was pre george floyd this case would be overlooked. But post george floyd will force the mayor/governor to respond to the people (there was a riot after the shooting).
They claimed he was reaching for a gun.

No gun was found as usual

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby Blaze d Chalice » August 25th, 2020, 8:52 am

According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 8:58 am

Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.
Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji
So you get shoot for not having a drivers permit, nice .

TT police should follow suit

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby elec2020 » August 25th, 2020, 9:03 am

zoom rader wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Raw footage. Warning graphic violence. Man being shot in the back, not once, but about 6 or 7 times. Police Officer looked real casual as he was pumping those bullets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


Shouldn't have gotten into the car but imo that is excessive force. Police could claim he was reaching for something in the car though. If this was pre george floyd this case would be overlooked. But post george floyd will force the mayor/governor to respond to the people (there was a riot after the shooting).
They claimed he was reaching for a gun.

No gun was found as usual


Its a slippery slope. The guy turned his back on them and went in his car for something. So they can argue that he was deemed a threat at the time and action had ti be taken. There defense lawyer van justify that. Where the prosecution would come in is the use of excessive force. Not only did they use guns on an unarmed man (not a taser, mace, etc) or phisically restrain him, they pump 7 shots into the man infront of his 3 kids. Any jury will eat that up. So the case imo will go to court. But it can still go either way for the defense/prosecution.

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Postby Blaze d Chalice » August 25th, 2020, 9:04 am

zoom rader wrote:So you get shoot for not having a drivers permit, nice .

TT police should follow suit

You know in Trinidad most of them criminal pest don't even own the stolen car they driving, far less for a drivers permit.

If TTPS follow suit that will be a huge positive for law abiding trinis (the minority)

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 11:06 am

Perfect examples of house negroes , they house negroes remind me of PNM minsters pleasing 1%


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RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 25th, 2020, 12:56 pm

Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby 88sins » August 25th, 2020, 1:07 pm

smmfh

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 1:57 pm

MaxPower wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.
Pending accusations does not mean you are a hard core criminal.

All those was dropped.

All he had was no driving permit.

Re-read the article and stop being a dummy

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby Blaze d Chalice » August 25th, 2020, 2:10 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.
Pending accusations does not mean you are a hard core criminal.

All those was dropped.

All he had was no driving permit.

Re-read the article and stop being a dummy


I went to re-read and actually this is what it says. (It can't copy/paste)


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https://racinecountyeye.com/police-k9-dozer-helps-subdue-man-who-pulled-gun-at-bar

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 25th, 2020, 2:19 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.
Pending accusations does not mean you are a hard core criminal.

All those was dropped.

All he had was no driving permit.

Re-read the article and stop being a dummy


Zoom,

Why were the cases dropped? Did the victims refuse to testify due to to threat on their lives?

Why didnt he have a driving permit?

He would have never been in this position if he didnt interfere with people and just renew his license.

These are criminals Zoom with continued criminal behavior.

Anyways, have they started rioting?

Store owners are fearful for another crime wave.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby zoom rader » August 25th, 2020, 2:22 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.
Pending accusations does not mean you are a hard core criminal.

All those was dropped.

All he had was no driving permit.

Re-read the article and stop being a dummy


Zoom,

Why were the cases dropped? Did the victims refuse to testify due to to threat on their lives?

Why didnt he have a driving permit?

He would have never been in this position if he didnt interfere with people and just renew his license.

These are criminals Zoom with continued criminal behavior.

Anyways, have they started rioting?

Store owners are fearful for another crime wave.
Re-read it

"A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license".

If the penalty for not having a driving permit is to get shot in the back then the TT police need to up their game to deal with the PNM ppl pest.

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Re: RIP George Floyd

Postby MaxPower » August 25th, 2020, 2:39 pm

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:
According to Wisconsin Circuit Court Access online records, a Jacob S. Blake, same age and with an address in the same block where the shooting occurred, had a warrant issued for him on July 7 on pending accusations of misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier; felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier; and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier. A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license.


Redman wrote:We need a yawn emoji.


Nah we need a sleep emoji


Wow this guy is a hardcore criminal.

This pest is raping people, resisting arrest, blatantly walking away from the officers to go in his car for what? To commit or attempt another crime with children and on lookers in the vicinity?

How much more must these hard working officers tolerate? They gave him so much chances...its not like they all grabbed him the instant he started walking away and started to beat and choke him.

And his pest family saying he didnt do anything? Why dont they ask the rape victims what he did.

But 7 shots? Only?

My prayers are with the officer.
Pending accusations does not mean you are a hard core criminal.

All those was dropped.

All he had was no driving permit.

Re-read the article and stop being a dummy


Zoom,

Why were the cases dropped? Did the victims refuse to testify due to to threat on their lives?

Why didnt he have a driving permit?

He would have never been in this position if he didnt interfere with people and just renew his license.

These are criminals Zoom with continued criminal behavior.

Anyways, have they started rioting?

Store owners are fearful for another crime wave.
Re-read it

"A support action was dismissed, and the only other case that comes up is for not having a driver’s license".

If the penalty for not having a driving permit is to get shot in the back then the TT police need to up their game to deal with the PNM ppl pest.


The TTPS needs to up their game on the whole Zoom.

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