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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Chimera » July 2nd, 2025, 7:09 pm

pugboy wrote:where dem used to go and wuk in forest ?
fc had all kinda schemes with he mydns gangs




yuh call the right name there

you could imagine what he wudda do if pnm had remained in power

that one is the biggest government gangsta in Trinidad history

the amount of properties and lands he take from people in the last several years......it...simply amazing.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Chimera » July 2nd, 2025, 8:39 pm

paid_influencer wrote:forest tree workers getting boot also

brace for friday oui
Ask all of them to say what they do in the last 5 years na

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Chimera » July 2nd, 2025, 9:13 pm

so the plan was to work for cepep until yuh retire and draw pension?

they forget what CEPEP was?
it was a freaking handout

yuh working for umpteen years?

well yuh get through. move on

yuh eh develop any usable skills in the last umpteen years?

cepep workw as from 6am to 10am

after yuh spend most of your day pay on the 10:30 am play whe draw that was created to catch allyuh same cepep workers, u cudda find something else to do the rest of the day?

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby pugboy » July 2nd, 2025, 9:13 pm

where the clip of the pnm lady who say “we have nuttin to get” a couple elections ago
this chap is same yes

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Chimera » July 2nd, 2025, 9:27 pm

i was thinking the same thing

kamla going and take everything nuttin for we dred

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby timelapse » July 3rd, 2025, 7:16 am

Chimera wrote:i was thinking the same thing

kamla going and take everything nuttin for we dred

This is the legacy of the 'Great ' Eric Williams that created and nurtured the Gimme Gimme Tribe. You guys already think I am racist, so lets add classist to it.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby paid_influencer » July 3rd, 2025, 7:49 am

so the contractors get paid in lieu of 1 month notice, but not paying the workers? lol

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby one eye » July 3rd, 2025, 10:03 am

Hover since you working NIB, maybe you could chime in how ghost gangs work around NIS deductions.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 3rd, 2025, 10:15 am

one eye wrote:Hover since you working NIB, maybe you could chime in how ghost gangs work around NIS deductions.
Thought you would never ask one eye....one case I will never forget a lady came in to do a maternity application she was working pricesmart , cool her employer completed the form normal I said nice a straight easy claim when I checked the system it showed URP contributions along with pricesmart then I asked her you did any kind of work for URP she give me a stupid look, I said it's a yes or no question. Hesitantly she admitted she in a ghost gang. I said you have to go urp and let them complete your form as well.


This is the point i trying to make, the institutions pay for these ghosts like normal workers and when it's time to claim they complete the forms like normal so there is no accountability there is no checks and balances. Sometimes I wonder wtf we have a fraud squad for cuz this is defrauding the government. Better everybody join a ghost gang and collect free money and contributions. However I have noticed that CEPEP changed their policy as it tends to the workers where the contractors now in charge of making NIS payments not the company, step in the right direction

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby pugboy » July 3rd, 2025, 10:54 am

the contributions being made by the cepep contractor but the ghost person still not really working and govt paying the money which being kickbacked all how

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one eye wrote:Hover since you working NIB, maybe you could chime in how ghost gangs work around NIS deductions.
Thought you would never ask one eye....one case I will never forget a lady came in to do a maternity application she was working pricesmart , cool her employer completed the form normal I said nice a straight easy claim when I checked the system it showed URP contributions along with pricesmart then I asked her you did any kind of work for URP she give me a stupid look, I said it's a yes or no question. Hesitantly she admitted she in a ghost gang. I said you have to go urp and let them complete your form as well.


This is the point i trying to make, the institutions pay for these ghosts like normal workers and when it's time to claim they complete the forms like normal so there is no accountability there is no checks and balances. Sometimes I wonder wtf we have a fraud squad for cuz this is defrauding the government. Better everybody join a ghost gang and collect free money and contributions. However I have noticed that CEPEP changed their policy as it tends to the workers where the contractors now in charge of making NIS payments not the company, step in the right direction

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby one eye » July 3rd, 2025, 11:06 am

The vast majority of CEPEP workers are legitimate and not involved in fraudulent activity.

Not denying the existence of ghost gangs, the parties involved should be dealt accordingly.

The mass firing of ALL employees without a thorough investigation is grounds for lawsuits of unfair dismissal.

No matter whether public or private, there are always individuals trying to beat the system.

Management, in this case the government is responsible for taking steps to prevent this.

CEPEP issued a memorandum in July 8, 2020 that CEPEP will make direct online NIS payments for contractors' employees to NIB in an attempt to tackle ghost gangs along with other fraudulent activities.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby mero » July 3rd, 2025, 11:52 am

Chimera wrote:
mero wrote:
Chimera wrote:wait and lets see who had the contracts and how much contracts they had

and allyuh be honest na

when cepep on a site...allyuh never use to see 2 men working and 25 of them hiding in the shade

Dont lie eh, the devil will get you.
Dem CEPEP does real wuk in my area. Fields, drains and men outside lawn well maintained and they wind down from like 10.

I see more laziness what you talking about with WASA employees. 1 man in the hole or digging up something and 10 a dem watching
So you never see cepep crews outside of your area? 2 men working and 25 resting? Talk the truth eh
Ofc it have men skinning back. CEPEP hours are from 6-12 and 7-1 most of the time.

They don't have a lunch room or staff room to chill in or toilet to hide in. So who's to how who on lunch and who skinning back?

Working 4 1/2 hours to 5 hours out of a 6 hour work day is plenty.

Compare this to how much work the average mostly public sector worker does. If u coulda be a fly on the wall in public sector. How much hours you think hover working a day? Start at 9, 2 hour lunch , half hour break, roam the floor, play on 2nr. Sure u getting more work from a CEPEP workers than a govt worker.

Nontheless, CEPEP is most likely overstaffed and needs revamping. However sending home 11,000 , calling it collateral damage and laughing is madness after promising winning for all. And a sector like sanitation and maintenance in a stink ass country during rainy season where we always one step away from flood and dengue is failure.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby st7 » July 3rd, 2025, 12:03 pm

the only difference between most public servants and CEPEP is the setting

fight me

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 3rd, 2025, 12:35 pm

mero wrote:
Chimera wrote:
mero wrote:
Chimera wrote:wait and lets see who had the contracts and how much contracts they had

and allyuh be honest na

when cepep on a site...allyuh never use to see 2 men working and 25 of them hiding in the shade

Dont lie eh, the devil will get you.
Dem CEPEP does real wuk in my area. Fields, drains and men outside lawn well maintained and they wind down from like 10.

I see more laziness what you talking about with WASA employees. 1 man in the hole or digging up something and 10 a dem watching
So you never see cepep crews outside of your area? 2 men working and 25 resting? Talk the truth eh
Ofc it have men skinning back. CEPEP hours are from 6-12 and 7-1 most of the time.

They don't have a lunch room or staff room to chill in or toilet to hide in. So who's to how who on lunch and who skinning back?

Working 4 1/2 hours to 5 hours out of a 6 hour work day is plenty.

Compare this to how much work the average mostly public sector worker does. If u coulda be a fly on the wall in public sector. How much hours you think hover working a day? Start at 9, 2 hour lunch , half hour break, roam the floor, play on 2nr. Sure u getting more work from a CEPEP workers than a govt worker.

Nontheless, CEPEP is most likely overstaffed and needs revamping. However sending home 11,000 , calling it collateral damage and laughing is madness after promising winning for all. And a sector like sanitation and maintenance in a stink ass country during rainy season where we always one step away from flood and dengue is failure.
I will start with this....you talking in your ass. Forget me cuz I don't care anymore as it have ZERO reward for hard work where I work, I lie the reward is more work i read that play long time. It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of. So carry on you made your point cepep needs to restructure we can agree on that no problem but don't compare the public service to that of CEPEP you comparing apples with oranges

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby timelapse » July 3rd, 2025, 1:10 pm

one eye wrote:The vast majority of CEPEP workers are legitimate and not involved in fraudulent activity.

Not denying the existence of ghost gangs, the parties involved should be dealt accordingly.

The mass firing of ALL employees without a thorough investigation is grounds for lawsuits of unfair dismissal.

No matter whether public or private, there are always individuals trying to beat the system.

Management, in this case the government is responsible for taking steps to prevent this.

CEPEP issued a memorandum in July 8, 2020 that CEPEP will make direct online NIS payments for contractors' employees to NIB in an attempt to tackle ghost gangs along with other fraudulent activities.

They did this when the last government came into power. Where were you then?

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 3rd, 2025, 1:45 pm

A Laventille contractor with the CEPEP Company Ltd has threatened to take the company to court after CEPEP suddenly ended its contract.

Read more here: https://newsday.co.tt/2025/07/03/cepep- ... -contract/

The epitome of entitlement, if supporters of the last regime are crying foul over contract terminations, it begs the question—were these contracts awarded based on merit or political loyalty?This kind of abuse is exactly why the system needed to be purged.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby one eye » July 4th, 2025, 8:29 am

It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of.

Sure, the ministry of education can be harsh at peak times. Tell us what you do.

I saw no issue with the management and measures taken, find a fault with their policy and let me know timelapse.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 4th, 2025, 8:35 am

One eye lemme ask you something for the past 10 years PNM didn't give a shite about workers how all of a sudden they realize workers important while in opposition. Save the theatrics these are the same ppl who say 4 percent is as good as it gets and you could get your back pay and lose your job while increasing their own salaries by exponential amounts

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby one eye » July 4th, 2025, 9:06 am

Hover you living under a rock?

There has been many social events for family and workers as well as town-hall gathering meetings and outreach initiatives.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 4th, 2025, 9:08 am

one eye wrote:Hover you living under a rock?

There has been many social events for family and workers as well as town-hall gathering meetings and outreach initiatives.
Lmaoooooooooo we will take that to the grocery one eye thanks for that laugh eh

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby alfa » July 4th, 2025, 9:22 am

I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Dizzy28 » July 4th, 2025, 9:27 am

alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming


Contractor??

Man at least with Kallco and Coosal there is the process of tendering. What is the criteria in selecting and awarding CEPEP Contracts.

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 4th, 2025, 9:29 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming


Contractor??

Man at least with Kallco and Coosal there is the process of tendering. What is the criteria in selecting and awarding CEPEP Contracts.
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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby pugboy » July 4th, 2025, 9:36 am

ideally cepep needs an external auditing to prevent ghost gangs and fraud or party bobol
but i ain’t sure which govt willing to setup that and its absurd to have to setup such for what supposed to be a short term social welfare system

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby pugboy » July 4th, 2025, 9:38 am

they shoulda make them resubmit employment application and show how/what work they used to do
you will see how fast ppl backpedal

alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby hover11 » July 4th, 2025, 9:39 am

pugboy wrote:ideally cepep needs an external auditing to prevent ghost gangs and fraud or party bobol
but i ain’t sure which govt willing to setup that and its absurd to have to setup such for what supposed to be a short term social welfare system
A woman was crying out she had to pay her mortgage and depending on CEPEP, how did we reach here where ppl are depending on a short term employment programme as their livelihood

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby timelapse » July 4th, 2025, 10:04 am

one eye wrote:
It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of.

Sure, the ministry of education can be harsh at peak times. Tell us what you do.

I saw no issue with the management and measures taken, find a fault with their policy and let me know timelapse.

What for you hollering my name?

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby mero » July 4th, 2025, 11:00 am

alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
its about 20,000 now jobless now btw. SURPRISE!!

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Re: Funding Cepep as important as awarding scholarships

Postby Type Rated » July 4th, 2025, 11:09 am

mero wrote:
alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.

It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities

However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.

It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
its about 20,000 now jobless now btw. SURPRISE!!



Wow another 9000 overnight oh noes

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