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pugboy wrote:where dem used to go and wuk in forest ?
fc had all kinda schemes with he mydns gangs
Ask all of them to say what they do in the last 5 years napaid_influencer wrote:forest tree workers getting boot also
brace for friday oui
Chimera wrote:i was thinking the same thing
kamla going and take everything nuttin for we dred
Thought you would never ask one eye....one case I will never forget a lady came in to do a maternity application she was working pricesmart , cool her employer completed the form normal I said nice a straight easy claim when I checked the system it showed URP contributions along with pricesmart then I asked her you did any kind of work for URP she give me a stupid look, I said it's a yes or no question. Hesitantly she admitted she in a ghost gang. I said you have to go urp and let them complete your form as well.one eye wrote:Hover since you working NIB, maybe you could chime in how ghost gangs work around NIS deductions.
hover11 wrote:Thought you would never ask one eye....one case I will never forget a lady came in to do a maternity application she was working pricesmart , cool her employer completed the form normal I said nice a straight easy claim when I checked the system it showed URP contributions along with pricesmart then I asked her you did any kind of work for URP she give me a stupid look, I said it's a yes or no question. Hesitantly she admitted she in a ghost gang. I said you have to go urp and let them complete your form as well.one eye wrote:Hover since you working NIB, maybe you could chime in how ghost gangs work around NIS deductions.
This is the point i trying to make, the institutions pay for these ghosts like normal workers and when it's time to claim they complete the forms like normal so there is no accountability there is no checks and balances. Sometimes I wonder wtf we have a fraud squad for cuz this is defrauding the government. Better everybody join a ghost gang and collect free money and contributions. However I have noticed that CEPEP changed their policy as it tends to the workers where the contractors now in charge of making NIS payments not the company, step in the right direction
Ofc it have men skinning back. CEPEP hours are from 6-12 and 7-1 most of the time.Chimera wrote:So you never see cepep crews outside of your area? 2 men working and 25 resting? Talk the truth ehmero wrote:Dem CEPEP does real wuk in my area. Fields, drains and men outside lawn well maintained and they wind down from like 10.Chimera wrote:wait and lets see who had the contracts and how much contracts they had
and allyuh be honest na
when cepep on a site...allyuh never use to see 2 men working and 25 of them hiding in the shade
Dont lie eh, the devil will get you.
I see more laziness what you talking about with WASA employees. 1 man in the hole or digging up something and 10 a dem watching
I will start with this....you talking in your ass. Forget me cuz I don't care anymore as it have ZERO reward for hard work where I work, I lie the reward is more work i read that play long time. It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of. So carry on you made your point cepep needs to restructure we can agree on that no problem but don't compare the public service to that of CEPEP you comparing apples with orangesmero wrote:Ofc it have men skinning back. CEPEP hours are from 6-12 and 7-1 most of the time.Chimera wrote:So you never see cepep crews outside of your area? 2 men working and 25 resting? Talk the truth ehmero wrote:Dem CEPEP does real wuk in my area. Fields, drains and men outside lawn well maintained and they wind down from like 10.Chimera wrote:wait and lets see who had the contracts and how much contracts they had
and allyuh be honest na
when cepep on a site...allyuh never use to see 2 men working and 25 of them hiding in the shade
Dont lie eh, the devil will get you.
I see more laziness what you talking about with WASA employees. 1 man in the hole or digging up something and 10 a dem watching
They don't have a lunch room or staff room to chill in or toilet to hide in. So who's to how who on lunch and who skinning back?
Working 4 1/2 hours to 5 hours out of a 6 hour work day is plenty.
Compare this to how much work the average mostly public sector worker does. If u coulda be a fly on the wall in public sector. How much hours you think hover working a day? Start at 9, 2 hour lunch , half hour break, roam the floor, play on 2nr. Sure u getting more work from a CEPEP workers than a govt worker.
Nontheless, CEPEP is most likely overstaffed and needs revamping. However sending home 11,000 , calling it collateral damage and laughing is madness after promising winning for all. And a sector like sanitation and maintenance in a stink ass country during rainy season where we always one step away from flood and dengue is failure.
one eye wrote:The vast majority of CEPEP workers are legitimate and not involved in fraudulent activity.
Not denying the existence of ghost gangs, the parties involved should be dealt accordingly.
The mass firing of ALL employees without a thorough investigation is grounds for lawsuits of unfair dismissal.
No matter whether public or private, there are always individuals trying to beat the system.
Management, in this case the government is responsible for taking steps to prevent this.
CEPEP issued a memorandum in July 8, 2020 that CEPEP will make direct online NIS payments for contractors' employees to NIB in an attempt to tackle ghost gangs along with other fraudulent activities.
It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of.
Lmaoooooooooo we will take that to the grocery one eye thanks for that laugh ehone eye wrote:Hover you living under a rock?
There has been many social events for family and workers as well as town-hall gathering meetings and outreach initiatives.
alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.
It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities
However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.
It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
Party cardDizzy28 wrote:alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.
It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities
However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.
It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
Contractor??
Man at least with Kallco and Coosal there is the process of tendering. What is the criteria in selecting and awarding CEPEP Contracts.
alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.
It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities
However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.
It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
A woman was crying out she had to pay her mortgage and depending on CEPEP, how did we reach here where ppl are depending on a short term employment programme as their livelihoodpugboy wrote:ideally cepep needs an external auditing to prevent ghost gangs and fraud or party bobol
but i ain’t sure which govt willing to setup that and its absurd to have to setup such for what supposed to be a short term social welfare system
one eye wrote:It have workers by me who come to work on time EVERYDAY and go above and beyond making sure everything is done to the best of their ability under some grueling conditions that the public not aware of.
Sure, the ministry of education can be harsh at peak times. Tell us what you do.
I saw no issue with the management and measures taken, find a fault with their policy and let me know timelapse.
its about 20,000 now jobless now btw. SURPRISE!!alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.
It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities
However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.
It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
mero wrote:its about 20,000 now jobless now btw. SURPRISE!!alfa wrote:I think we can all agree that cepep was the biggest eat a food program around.
It can be restructured and run on less than half the labor force or even put in the hands of private entities
However I reiterate that sending home 10k workers just like that was in poor taste even if legally done and the fact that one contractor is suing means that's there's some grey area.
It should have been implemented over a year at least, letting people know up front what's coming
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