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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby EmilioA » December 18th, 2015, 12:08 pm

^^^
To the privatization crew. Dont confuse production and distribution.

While there may be many water and power producers, infrastructure requirements limit water and power distributers to one.

Do you think you will get 2 and 3 companies running powerlines or pipelines to your house ? Each company go have to put down they own lightpoles and dig up the road.

As a result the distribution system will remain a monopoly. And if so it is best it remain a state monopoly.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby zoom rader » December 18th, 2015, 2:19 pm

EmilioA wrote:^^^
To the privatization crew. Dont confuse production and distribution.

While there may be many water and power producers, infrastructure requirements limit water and power distributers to one.

Do you think you will get 2 and 3 companies running powerlines or pipelines to your house ? Each company go have to put down they own lightpoles and dig up the road.

As a result the distribution system will remain a monopoly. And if so it is best it remain a state monopoly.


TTEC makes mega bucks, they own the electricity post. All these telecom and cable companies pay them rents for use of their post.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby De Dragon » December 18th, 2015, 2:35 pm

EmilioA wrote:
pjfred wrote:Yeah 6 billion plus eggs, now they trying to give a&v drilling the rest with one of the biggest contracts this country have ever seen.


Dude by my calculation the UNC ripped off 200 billion TTD from this country.

So yeah 6 billion is just a few eggs.

Lewwe see some ah dem dere calculations nah?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby 1UZFE » December 18th, 2015, 3:14 pm

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:^^^
To the privatization crew. Dont confuse production and distribution.

While there may be many water and power producers, infrastructure requirements limit water and power distributers to one.

Do you think you will get 2 and 3 companies running powerlines or pipelines to your house ? Each company go have to put down they own lightpoles and dig up the road.

As a result the distribution system will remain a monopoly. And if so it is best it remain a state monopoly.


TTEC makes mega bucks, they own the electricity post. All these telecom and cable companies pay them rents for use of their post.

Zoom u sure dem other companies paying.??
When is time to pay and the can't dey usually call the MPU to step in. Hence giving Ttec a defecit in payments.
Remember Ttec Cannot cut certain institutions.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby EmilioA » December 18th, 2015, 6:11 pm

zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:^^^
To the privatization crew. Dont confuse production and distribution.

While there may be many water and power producers, infrastructure requirements limit water and power distributers to one.

Do you think you will get 2 and 3 companies running powerlines or pipelines to your house ? Each company go have to put down they own lightpoles and dig up the road.

As a result the distribution system will remain a monopoly. And if so it is best it remain a state monopoly.


TTEC makes mega bucks, they own the electricity post. All these telecom and cable companies pay them rents for use of their post.


And ? You think they go rent they posts to a rival electrical distribution company ?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby EmilioA » December 18th, 2015, 6:18 pm

De Dragon wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
pjfred wrote:Yeah 6 billion plus eggs, now they trying to give a&v drilling the rest with one of the biggest contracts this country have ever seen.


Dude by my calculation the UNC ripped off 200 billion TTD from this country.

So yeah 6 billion is just a few eggs.

Lewwe see some ah dem dere calculations nah?


Like I said before I have good authority that the cost of projects under the UNC is triple the actual value of the project. That means that potentially two thirds of non recurrent expenditure is going into people's back pockets. Calculate against 5 years worth of budgets and you end up with 200 billion TTD.

But I willing to admit its an estimate. It could only be 100 billion.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby redmanjp » December 18th, 2015, 6:54 pm

tr1ad wrote:boo hoo....
hopefully people learn about conservation this time around


this

our bill went from ave $250 bimonthly to $325 after installing 1 2400W AC. we usually keep it between 25-27C and use a 'Wind Machine' fan to move air around so it's cool enough.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby zoom rader » December 19th, 2015, 5:50 am

EmilioA wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
pjfred wrote:Yeah 6 billion plus eggs, now they trying to give a&v drilling the rest with one of the biggest contracts this country have ever seen.


Dude by my calculation the UNC ripped off 200 billion TTD from this country.

So yeah 6 billion is just a few eggs.

Lewwe see some ah dem dere calculations nah?


Like I said before I have good authority that the cost of projects under the UNC is triple the actual value of the project. That means that potentially two thirds of non recurrent expenditure is going into people's back pockets. Calculate against 5 years worth of budgets and you end up with 200 billion TTD.

But I willing to admit its an estimate. It could only be 100 billion.


Where your calculations?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby zoom rader » December 19th, 2015, 5:56 am

EmilioA wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EmilioA wrote:^^^
To the privatization crew. Dont confuse production and distribution.

While there may be many water and power producers, infrastructure requirements limit water and power distributers to one.

Do you think you will get 2 and 3 companies running powerlines or pipelines to your house ? Each company go have to put down they own lightpoles and dig up the road.

As a result the distribution system will remain a monopoly. And if so it is best it remain a state monopoly.


TTEC makes mega bucks, they own the electricity post. All these telecom and cable companies pay them rents for use of their post.


And ? You think they go rent they posts to a rival electrical distribution company ?


No no you missing the point. The point is to privatise TTEC and employ ppl that will work and seek shareholders stake.
The end result will be shareholders get a return and Government sit back and collect taxes.
A private TTEC will still be a broker and own the distribution set up.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby goalpost » December 19th, 2015, 6:09 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:ZR first I ever heard that Trinidad has private water and power companies.

Out of curiosity how much that private water company that serves moruga charge compared to WASA?
I am of the impression that government is significantly cheaper but when you think about it, probably not? Since FLOW internet is cheaper than TSTT?


There are many others that don't know of this and all they do is bump gum

The water plant down Moruga last I heard it was just use to serve parts of Moruga.
They do the same, sell water to Wasa and Wasa sells you the water for a profit. What they do with that profit we don't know.

From my knowledge all brokers always make money.

TTEC and Wasa are just brokers and are mis managed.

Government should not be running any businesses


I see very interesting you make a really good point here, if you overhear trinis talk and a topic like this comes up you always hear them say WASA and T&TEC should be privatized but it can't because only government can provide water and current.

T&TEC black outs far as I see happens too often and they don't get it back up and running in a timely manner, once it happens after dark they purposely take long I witnessed them even stopping by the bar to lime and ole talk instead of rushing to fix the problem. They really should privatize that but which government really have the belly to do that.

Stop talking sheit just to bull zr in he bamsee.
What blackout you talking about? Do you feel to restore a blackout is just to flip a switch to ON? And i know you purposely lying about the crews at the bar because the GM would have dealt with that immediately.
Also note it is usually not the crew that is the first responder but there would be Engineers and/or Supervisors most likely in plainclothes looking for the problem.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby RASC » December 19th, 2015, 9:12 am

ED just never dissapoints. I swear he secretly wukking for Duane, to boost replying and general anger on the forum :lol:

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Cantmis » December 19th, 2015, 9:22 am

Ed a mona loser!

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby RASC » December 19th, 2015, 9:49 am

...and works for less than $100usd a month mind you :lol:

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby novastar1 » December 19th, 2015, 10:20 am

RASC wrote:ED just never dissapoints. I swear he secretly wukking for Duane, to boost replying and general anger on the forum :lol:

What if EF is Duane?:ugeek::oops:

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Cantmis » December 19th, 2015, 10:35 am

novastar1 wrote:
RASC wrote:ED just never dissapoints. I swear he secretly wukking for Duane, to boost replying and general anger on the forum :lol:

What if EF is Duane?:ugeek::oops:

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Daran » December 19th, 2015, 11:39 am

Man ED does propagate so much BS that he has to be master troll.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby racedriverpro » December 19th, 2015, 12:38 pm

^^^ pioneer probably?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby *$kїđž!™ » December 19th, 2015, 5:04 pm

redmanjp wrote:
tr1ad wrote:boo hoo....
hopefully people learn about conservation this time around


this

our bill went from ave $250 bimonthly to $325 after installing 1 2400W AC. we usually keep it between 25-27C and use a 'Wind Machine' fan to move air around so it's cool enough.



your bill was $250?

I just have normal appliances along with a dryer and 2 small a/c units that operate only at night times and my bill is close to $500 :?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby redmanjp » December 19th, 2015, 9:12 pm

*$kїđž!™ wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
tr1ad wrote:boo hoo....
hopefully people learn about conservation this time around


this

our bill went from ave $250 bimonthly to $325 after installing 1 2400W AC. we usually keep it between 25-27C and use a 'Wind Machine' fan to move air around so it's cool enough.



your bill was $250?

I just have normal appliances along with a dryer and 2 small a/c units that operate only at night times and my bill is close to $500 :?


water heater?

what temp u have the ac's on?

btw we don't have the ac on every day - mostly on weekends and maybe once or twice during the week

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby gastly369 » December 19th, 2015, 9:16 pm

Defuq we bill does be 1900+

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Cantmis » December 19th, 2015, 9:20 pm

Dryers and stoves ???

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby redmanjp » December 19th, 2015, 9:22 pm

gastly369 wrote:Defuq we bill does be 1900+


ACs? what's your usage like?

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby De Dragon » December 19th, 2015, 11:03 pm

How does an electric bill really be that high? I have dryer/A/C's and 'regular' appliances and my bill is $600 per month average.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby nervewrecker » December 20th, 2015, 10:08 am

gastly369 wrote:Defuq we bill does be 1900+


Hoss, if ours cross $450.00 is plenty. What you have there? :shock:

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Morpheus » December 20th, 2015, 10:17 am

Just a couple ACs and a deep freeze here and less than $400
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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby gastly369 » December 20th, 2015, 10:29 am

De 5 ac units... Water heater ..electric stove ,deep freeze, fridge, 5 pc and some TV..mostly on..other stuff not much use...idk. Will do my own checks with meter and see

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby tr1ad » December 21st, 2015, 10:12 am

yet to cross 400 with dryer, washer, 2 ac units, etc

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby W2J » December 21st, 2015, 3:00 pm

^ that's real good, I can't remember the last time my electricity bill at home was under $1800.00

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby pete » December 21st, 2015, 3:02 pm

THose figures allyuh quoting is per month or per bill? The bill is 2 months so just wondering.

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Re: T&TEC, water rate increase coming in 2016

Postby Dizzy28 » December 22nd, 2015, 2:05 pm

Our household home only has 1 Washing machine, a freezer, 1 fridge, 2 12,000 BTU A/Cs; 1 showerhead type water heater along with regular small appliances such as TVs microwave toaster oven and our bill averages $750 every two months.

We don't have any - tanked water heater, clothes dryer, water pump, electric stove etc.

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