the right to bear arms

[VII]

Correct !

[pugboy]

and prison officers got some special preference to carry home their guns

[VII]

Most of them have ful now...plenty young police too..every Chinese grocery have police and prison officer with personal ful moonlighting now.

and prison officers got some special preference to carry home their guns

[pugboy]

that’s the half of all gg say he issued were to service men

Most of them have ful now...plenty young police too..every Chinese grocery have police and prison officer with personal ful moonlighting now.

and prison officers got some special preference to carry home their guns

[alfa]

How often service men required to train on a range after completing the academy? I wanna believe some of them never fired a shot in decades. The ones you do see on a range are sub para lot of times

[Chimera]

It wasn't robbery, your mom dead for a ramdom bachanal ? Seems like those folks were ready and waiting for conflict sorry..they trying to say the people just stabbed them but I don't believe that. Seems like a case of a jackass with an ful.

I woulda give dem my spot and make a block and all, how that reach to guns and knives ? That stabbing and all sounding fishy...

https://guardian.co.tt/news/chaguanas-w ... b3c1460d72

it easy to look at the facts after and say he screwed up if you just say "whey.....a bacchanal for a parking spot end up in you killing your mother"

but none of us was there in the moment
idk if it have any video footage

we might all say "whey boy yuh cudda give the men the park"

but we don't know if it was a situation where he was blocked in and asked the men to leave

as trinis do, cuss start to pass and threats start to fly.
men does quickly look to pelt bottle or pull whatever weapon they have
and thing escalate and he get attacked by 4 men and he TRY to defend himself the only way he know how


he cudda be fully innocent and said " wo breathren doh block me na we leaving now"
and the response "hull yuh muddac**t na boy we now reach when we done yuh will get to pass" and it escalate

this is a normal everyday thing


hopefully it have some footage to clarify things.....

but that man will be haunted forever......he gonna need some serious counseling because that is thing to trip off for badly

[VII]

It easy to drive/ walk away smiling..the situation was NOT managed well, no attempts at deescalation..this wasn't a robbery, it could've been handled better,it would've been one of the 'attackers' dead instead and he would've been charged, but it's his mom and because of that he may not becauseit was clearly an accident, he effed up and knows it..don't need a vid to come to that conclusion. There are some things most FUL holders I know just dont get into and this incident is one. Take that to someone else pal,not me..

[VII]

He supposed to get outta there pronto instead of fighting for park!! Else you not using the ful right..and they try the old 'it was an attempted robbery' trick, just like the incident at Courts carpark a while ago..

[88sins]

A lot of chatter in here about who feel they know what, but keep this in mind.

Prisons officers and their families are being targeted, daily, by some of the worst of the worst criminals this country has ever seen and many have become a target, for simply doing their job. And this has been going on for years. More prison officers have been killed than officers in any other service. Men getting killed going to and from work, coming out the grocery, in their garden, and even in front their house in full view of their families. Literally anywhere, anytime. Add to that, criminals sending threats to harm their spouse and children and relatives. As a direct result, many of them are extremely stressed, both on and off the job, and highly strung, and see literally everyone as a potential threat in the making everywhere they go.
So, here's what I want you fellas to do.

Imagine yourself in this position, in that state of mind, seeing a group of people armed with weapons, aggressively approaching him and his family, and try and convince me or any sane reasonable person that the first thing on your mind in that scenario is walk away and de-escalate, knowing that if you do that could possibly get you and your family killed right then and there.



I find it amusing that some here bawling "de-escalate", "go and find another parking spot somewhere else", and all that. But lemme ask you who truly believe that, a simple question.

Why is it that you are so enthusiastic to place the entire burden of de-escalation on him, and not the 4 little idiots? They couldn't go park somewhere else? Were they legally and rightfully obligated to engage in their acts of aggression? Walking away wasn't an option for them before the incident, but running away (to the extent that they abandoned the vehicle they came in) after they realize they could get killed was? You trying to say that of the group, not one of them was in possession of enough grey matter to figure out that the course of action they decided upon was probably not the greatest idea? Since when have we started trying to justify stupidity and idiocy and make that the new standard?

This whole incident is a big pot of blame soup, and it have enough to go around so everyone involved can get some, but not everyone gets the exact same portion size.

I'll leave you all with this.
The idiots have escaped, and have now learned that bringing a knife to a gunfight doesn't work.
More likely than not, their next move will probably be to acquire a few firearms and with that quite possibly start to expand their criminal repertoire with robberies etc. Here's my challenge to you.

Explain how you walk away from and de-escalate the situation, if any or all of those fellas, now properly armed, brace you on the road, with the intent to take everything you have, maybe even your licensed firearm, while you going about your daily business.

[mero]

Everyone have valid points esp wrt being a prison officer in thia country.

At the end of the day mums dead and he have a whole lifetime studying what he coulda woulda shoulda do. And this guy is trained.

Lord have mercy on our souls when more trinis with murder fetishes aking to shoot ppl get FULs

[MaxPower]

Just because you a Prison Officer, more than likely corrupt, it don’t mean you can use deadly force for any lil ting OH because you are being targeted and your head hot.

Be more responsible.

If you know your life is at risk…do NOT stand up in a doubles line. It’s normal for people to be pushy due to the culture. Men hungry and angry, men rushing parks, blocking vehicles, rushing the line….we know this. So if you think your life is at risk, stay your trigger happy ass home and cook, or send someone to buy or WAIT in the car and be in a better position to be observant and have an additional form of protection and a means to flee if needed.

But no, stand up in a doubles line, gun on yuh waist, oh you bad, anyone breathe on you…blast dem.

Crime and culture causes situations…try your best not to put yourself in it especially as a FUL holder.

[pugboy]

Max
this prison faux pas is all part of the “arm the nation” teething process
eventually things will settle down
with some unfortunate casualties though but it will
and a gun will soon no longer be a status symbol

[mero]

When things go settle down if it eh even start yet?

[MaxPower]

Max
this prison faux pas is all part of the “arm the nation” teething process
eventually things will settle down
with some unfortunate casualties though but it will
and a gun will soon no longer be a status symbol

It will settle down when Peter pay for Paul and when PNM come back in power and put a stop to it.

[MaxPower]

If you are a FUL holder, you need to learn to stand down over petty issues. Someone cutting a line or taking a parking spot can be annoying, but just because you have something on your waist and people around you to impress, it does not mean you have to give in to the situation because of that boosted confidence and oh i carrying mentality.

Ask the prison officer….was your life in danger initially? What was the threat?

[MaxPower]

So lemme ask you this
Say you working in a career where your life and your family life is constantly under threat of death and harm from criminals, simply because of where you work. And the government knows this, so they grant you an FUL so you can keep a weapon to protect yourself and your family, and you see a group of knife wielding jackasses approaching you aggressively and threatening you and your family, and they proceed to stab you all.


Are you trying to say that you would let them potentially kill you and your family rather than make effective use of your weapon?

If your life is constantly under a threat, then that’s more reason to not get yourself involved in situations especially the escalation of petty issues? Who rush who for the park? More than likely the typical ignorant gun toting service man?

So seeing a group of knife welding jackasses coming up to you and fueling a parking dispute which resulted in a group of knife welding jackasses coming up to you is two entirely different situations. One could not be avoided whilst the other can.

I totally get your point, but just because you are a FUL holder, or someone whose life is constantly under a threat…that is not a reason to pick a gun fight for any and everything.

If you are not law enforcement officer, do not go to or encourage the situation, let the situation come to you and be ready to act responsibly.

[ADONI]

If you are a FUL holder, you need to learn to stand down over petty issues. Someone cutting a line or taking a parking spot can be annoying, but just because you have something on your waist and people around you to impress, it does not mean you have to give in to the situation because of that boosted confidence and oh i carrying mentality.

Ask the prison officer….was your life in danger initially? What was the threat?

X2

[MaxPower]

We know what Causation is in a court of law right?

When they ask if the prison officer significantly contributed to the reason for harm, what will they say?

A man rush u for a park, committed no crime, you cuss him, he pull out a knife, you kill him?

Listen allyuh be very careful with this FUL ting eh.

Not taking sides eh fellas, i was not there, just looking at it from a different angle.

[alfa]

I think the doubles man may be the only one who can give a proper account of what went on, surprised no one asked him for his version as yet

But I reiterate ALL service men need to pass a periodic refresher on firearms as well as use of force

[MaxPower]

If service men are NOT doing their job, lazy, inefficient, rude and corrupt…..then why are they allowed to go home with their firearms?

You eh doing one fork in work…illegals coming in, citizens are being battered, criminals running freely in and out of jail….what you want to go home with gun for? Steups

Criminals eh killing them, and them eh killing the real criminals….so whats the purpose for taking the gun home? To knock it on the wife? To pull rank? To be one of them bar pest police who like to pull gun and say oh he a police? Steups


This place too backward yes.

[pugboy]

prisons officers got special preference because many are targets from inside

few cops would be targets, they just want fun for rank ting and to do pj as grocery security

[alfa]

Rank thing while moonlighting in a grocery has to be an oxymoron. Is if they realize that

[88sins]

If service men are NOT doing their job, lazy, inefficient, rude and corrupt…..then why are they allowed to go home with their firearms?

You eh doing one fork in work…illegals coming in, citizens are being battered, criminals running freely in and out of jail….what you want to go home with gun for? Steups

Criminals eh killing them, and them eh killing the real criminals….so whats the purpose for taking the gun home? To knock it on the wife? To pull rank? To be one of them bar pest police who like to pull gun and say oh he a police? Steups


This place too backward yes.

Idk, maybe because he have an FUL and he bought it so it's his property and it don't belong to the government?

And wrt your statement about "criminals eh killing them", what about the young officer who was shot on the highway, the one who was killed on the way to his garden, the one who was shot dear exiting the supermarket, and several others. In your mind, where are they now? Vacationing in the clouds and learning to play the harp before they go back to work?
Boy lemme share something with you.

unless you can comprehend the threat level of having to interact with a inmate who responsible for multiple murders both that he himself committed and have people outside committing while he lock up, and that inmate telling you what school your child going, what standard she in, who is her teacher, the time she does reach and leave school and lessons, your address, the make, model, color and number plate of the car that dropping her off and picking her up, and the particulars of her driver, and her extracurricular activities, you have less than an inkling of a hint of an idea of where to start looking for a clue about what you speak of


All this can be considered part of the teething phase for the proliferation of small arms to the wider population. Will there be several shootings, both accidental and intentional? Definitely. But that will in short order settle into an occasional occurrence.

[Chimera]

i've seen instances where they would have someone in muslim gears stand up by the exit to the school when its over and they take a picture precisely when the target child walking through the gate

to show how close and easy it is to get to your child.

[*KRONIK*]

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/waterline-rupture-at-police-hq-destroys-ful-records/

Pressure for them SYG applications


Waterline rupture at Police HQ destroys FUL records

August 18, 2025

A malfunction in the fire suppression system at the Police Administration Building on Monday afternoon caused extensive damage to several secured records, including Firearm Users Licence (FUL) files, the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) confirmed.

The incident occurred around 12:45 pm on the sixth floor of the building, following a series of power outages and fire alarm activations across multiple levels. The suppression system, intended to protect critical records in the event of a fire, instead caused flooding when a waterline ruptured, a statement by the TTPS said.

The TTPS added that the affected documents included Human Resources files, internal memos, administrative records, and FUL applications. While many physical files were destroyed, digital records of FUL applications remain on file. However, these do not include copies of the original submitted documents, as the new digital system—set for rollout in the coming weeks—was not yet in place when those applications were made.

The statement said Commissioner of Police Allister Guevarro has begun reviewing the damage and said a list of destroyed files will soon be published. Persons whose applications were affected will be asked to contact the Firearms Permit Unit to assist in reconstructing their records. For security reasons, the TTPS said it will release only FUL file numbers, not applicants’ names or addresses.

The TTPS added that digital backups exist for the HR and administrative files and assured the public that it is fast-tracking the digitisation of the FUL process to allow secure online uploads and prevent future vulnerabilities.

[MaxPower]

Lol perfect excuse to stall.

[pugboy]

lawd
all who was hoping for a quick gt with unc syg
have to suck salt a bit now
now only imagine ppl applying even more now

[MaxPower]

Day after files destroyed:

“Morning morning we have a trunk full of FUL files for you”

“Na na throw wey that, tell them all that destroy, less wuk for we”

[alfa]

Anybody take een the interview with Ian where he got one of the stabbers of the prisoner officer to come forth?

His version claimed that the PO was acting aggressively and attacked then first and that sauce man's camera footage could prove it.

Don't know who to believe, but I find sauce man really taking long to release the footage, could it be he afraid to paint the PO in a bad light and of the repercussions that may follow?

[MaxPower]

Don’t need the video to prove anything.

Typical service man behavior.

They are always the wrong ones