PM: Emancipation for all ethnic origins

[ray d saint]

http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009 ... ic-origins

Prime Minister Patrick Manning said that Emancipation was for all, despite ethnic origins and so was Indian Arrival Day. He was delivering a speech last Friday at the annual dinner of the National Association for the Empowerment of Black People (NAEAP) at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya. He said, “This is not African Emancipation Day. Emancipation in T&T, as in other countries, has most importantly also been a struggle spanning generations of all origins.

“Citizens of every origin have been involved in the emancipation of Trinidad and Tobago. It is the same for (Indian) Arrival Day. We all came from distant shores and built this place that is now our home. We all arrived and have all been emancipated by our collective efforts. Let our history and our continuing common struggle weld us further together.

There is no other way to face the challenges that are before us,â€

[SR]

[quote="ray786"]http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009/08/03/pm-emancipation-all-ethnic-origins

Prime Minister Patrick Manning said that Emancipation was for all, despite ethnic origins and so was Indian Arrival Day. He was delivering a speech last Friday at the annual dinner of the National Association for the Empowerment of Black People (NAEAP) at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya. He said, “This is not African Emancipation Day. Emancipation in T&T, as in other countries, has most importantly also been a struggle spanning generations of all origins.

“Citizens of every origin have been involved in the emancipation of Trinidad and Tobago. It is the same for (Indian) Arrival Day. We all came from distant shores and built this place that is now our home. We all arrived and have all been emancipated by our collective efforts. Let our history and our continuing common struggle weld us further together.

There is no other way to face the challenges that are before us,â€

[- Rovin's car audio -]

yet manning have all of us still enslaved .....

[evo-STI-k]

yet manning have all of DEM chupid pmn kants still enslaved .....

well done SR!

this further emphasizes how much of a RACIAL arse he is!

[evo-STI-k]

bring back the queen and the WHIPS!

[horsepwrjunki]

who is not... never mind

[Humes]

It have people in here who doh even try to hide their malice, boy. Wow.

[Emil]

Manning is a compound idiot and his regime needs to get educated on how to run a country. But the speech was good in the sense it was not inflammatory and he included everyone. It may be just politicing but its important to keep an ethnically split population like ours in check.

[rodfarva]

It was a well written and well delivered speech. Of course I'm sure there are those out there who would have liked him to be blatantly offensive.


We need to start separating blind hate from the facts. Not everything someone does needs to be criticized

[tourniquet]

[quote="SR"][quote="ray786"]http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009/08/03/pm-emancipation-all-ethnic-origins

Prime Minister Patrick Manning said that Emancipation was for all, despite ethnic origins and so was Indian Arrival Day. He was delivering a speech last Friday at the annual dinner of the National Association for the Empowerment of Black People (NAEAP) at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya. He said, “This is not African Emancipation Day. Emancipation in T&T, as in other countries, has most importantly also been a struggle spanning generations of all origins.

“Citizens of every origin have been involved in the emancipation of Trinidad and Tobago. It is the same for (Indian) Arrival Day. We all came from distant shores and built this place that is now our home. We all arrived and have all been emancipated by our collective efforts. Let our history and our continuing common struggle weld us further together.

There is no other way to face the challenges that are before us,â€

[Maserati]

I do hope it is the writer who mess up there

[eliteauto]

So being invited to speak at an event on behalf of an organization that promotes the advancement of Black People makes one racist? Hmmmmm interesting slant

[MG Man]

I personally believe Emancipation day should not be for 'all'
Emancipation day IMHO is one of the few legitimate holidays we have. Aside from freedom itself, it proved the prevailing powers wrong....those who expected mayhem and breakdown in social order instead saw people praying and giving thanks I would not dilute the significance of Emancipation by saying it covers those of all ethnic backgrounds.....I believe it is something we ALL should celebrate tho.

[rodfarva]

So being invited to speak at an event on behalf of an organization that promotes the advancement of Black People makes one racist? Hmmmmm interesting slant

To opposing racists it does.

[JWT]

still waiting on the asian holiday and chineee holidays

[Alpha_2nr]

I don't see why Manning bothers making these "PR"-type comments anymore.

Less and less people are even bothered by it. It's pretty obvious how things are.

[Damien]

Manning hull he mc

[horsepwrjunki]

JWT, yuh under.. wait wda u askin for that for.. oooohhh n/m

[eliteauto]

I don't see why Manning bothers making these "PR"-type comments anymore.

Less and less people are even bothered by it. It's pretty obvious how things are.

he has to because Trinidadians of East Indian ancestry ....wait scratch that............Indians here see race in everything once the PNM is in power it goes like this "mi son is ah doctor now yuh know but how much Indian it have in de Police ?? Is ethnic cleansing of de public service I tell you, but meh children wukking in de private sector" You don't want your son as a Police yet still you venting bout race

or...
" Dem ni99a dem feel det reach eh, look at Malcolm Jones dey, how much energy wuk he wha...is damn discrimination I tell you look how I hadda own only 4 grocery and last year meh wife get ah X5, if was UNC dey it woulda be a Range Rover, i eh play I ketching meh arse here yes with dis PNM"

[rodfarva]

I don't see why Manning bothers making these "PR"-type comments anymore.
Less and less people are even bothered by it. It's pretty obvious how things are.

he has to because Trinidadians of East Indian ancestry ....wait scratch that............Indians here see race in everything once the PNM is in power it goes like this "mi son is ah doctor now yuh know but how much Indian it have in de Police ?? Is ethnic cleansing of de public service I tell you, but meh children wukking in de private sector" You don't want your son as a Police yet still you venting bout race

Thats pretty inaccurate right there. We all know that the public sector does not pay as well as the private sector. Anyone who strives to live a successful financial life within the bounds of legal society would look to the private sector first.
Oh, and the reason that a public sector can even exist is partially due to this private sector. So members of the private sector are within their right to b1tch and complain about whatever grievances that they might have. See, thats the right of taxpayers.
To make such a statement about the Indian population - or any Racial group is racially prejudiced.
I doubt that Indians get together and conspire NOT to work in the public sector.

or..." Dem ni99a dem feel det reach eh, look at Malcolm Jones dey, how much energy wuk he wha...is damn discrimination I tell you look how I hadda own only 4 grocery and last year meh wife get ah X5, if was UNC dey it woulda be a Range Rover, i eh play I ketching meh arse here yes with dis PNM"

That is taking a sensible point too far.

[SEVin]

I don't see why Manning bothers making these "PR"-type comments anymore.
Less and less people are even bothered by it. It's pretty obvious how things are.

he has to because Trinidadians of East Indian ancestry ....wait scratch that............Indians here see race in everything once the PNM is in power it goes like this "mi son is ah doctor now yuh know but how much Indian it have in de Police ?? Is ethnic cleansing of de public service I tell you, but meh children wukking in de private sector" You don't want your son as a Police yet still you venting bout race

Thats pretty inaccurate right there. We all know that the public sector does not pay as well as the private sector. Anyone who strives to live a successful financial life within the bounds of legal society would look to the private sector first.
Oh, and the reason that a public sector can even exist is partially due to this private sector. So members of the private sector are within their right to b1tch and complain about whatever grievances that they might have. See, thats the right of taxpayers.
To make such a statement about the Indian population - or any Racial group is racially prejudiced.
I doubt that Indians get together and conspire NOT to work in the public sector.

or..." Dem ni99a dem feel det reach eh, look at Malcolm Jones dey, how much energy wuk he wha...is damn discrimination I tell you look how I hadda own only 4 grocery and last year meh wife get ah X5, if was UNC dey it woulda be a Range Rover, i eh play I ketching meh arse here yes with dis PNM"

That is taking a sensible point too far.

Honestly what he is saying nothing new, this happens all over the world. They say the same thing in North America and the UK...Hell the same thing happens in Australia and believe or not even in Africa...When ah chineee bussing he bam bam for 20 hrs out of the friggin 24 wukkin, there are these fools who continue to complain that they are being treated unfairly (from the two major races in tnt)..Seriously, shut the hell up, get up and go to work!!!!

I shouldnt talk cus I in work and typing dis up... On a Sunday in Maracas (when I was there a few months back vacationing), there was a fete going on and it was around 8 at night and we making a move out cus my family had to go to work but there were plenty locals partying and buying a stag for 14 dollars or how much it was..I was like..dont these people have to work in the Morning? Seriously, when other people have to wake up at friggin 3 am to prepare for the day (everyday) and you have these fools who would rather drink and party and not bother how they going to pay rent, you have to wonder why de country is so.

You want to judge a country, then look at the actions of the citizens..

Now, time for a coffee

[eliteauto]

rodfarva, *ziiiiiiiing* apparently you're not following what I typed, so lemme break it down, when racism is being highlighted particularly by East Indians, who is at the forefront of such a cry? It's the educated, well-off so called "brahmins" who write newspaper articles and give news conferences, they are also the same ones who cry about discrimination/ethnic cleansing in the public service, fact is they don't want/desire/need to work there, but yet still cry about oppression whist eating off the fat of the land...get it?

And to say I'm taking a point too far is to be naive or to not have felt the brunt of jealous bigots, I'm black and grew up in an East Indian community and remain close with several prominent East Indian businessmen/politicians/attorneys etc and I mean "go in dey fridge and drink they juice jus so" close, so I know of what I speak...oh and it happens daily right here on this forum, once you eh know yuh place there's a lot of hate

[rodfarva]

rodfarva, *ziiiiiiiing* apparently you're not following what I typed, so lemme break it down, when racism is being highlighted particularly by East Indians, who is at the forefront of such a cry? It's the educated, well-off so called "brahmins" who write newspaper articles and give news conferences, they are also the same ones who cry about discrimination/ethnic cleansing in the public service fact is they don't want/desire/need to work there, but yet still cry about oppression whist eating off the fat of the land...get it?[/

no, I got what you were saying. But, these 'bhamins' and Well off East Indians eat off the fat of the land? That's rather one sided. I'm pretty sure that their contribution to society is not simply that of a leech. None of them pay taxes, (in the case of businessmen) employ staff, donate to charity, Contribute to their respective field? This is not isolated to East Indians only, but to anyone.
Damn right they can b1tch about problems.

fact is they don't want/desire/need to work there, but yet still cry about oppression whist eating off the fat of the land

So, what your saying is that if someone doesnt want to work in the PUBLIC sector, then that person should stay quiet and accept whatever treatment they get from it - be it good, bad, or none at all? That makes no sense man.

[eliteauto]

rodfarva, like you lost or you want to see this your way because of ...well whatever
again I'm saying, if you're not interested in getting a job in a certain place, how can you complain about not being employed there...is that clear enough??? Stop trying to obfuscate my point by changing it around to talk about service recieved that's not what is being discussed
Also I never said they made no contributions nor was that implied anywhere, what I'm saying (again in simple English) if you're enjoying the rewards of your labour in ways that are above the means of many why cry discrimination? Are Indians crying cause they not getting CEPEP, Police, Army, Fire Service jobs??? So where exactly is the discrimination, sounds more like "We want it all" syndrome......... if you can't comprehend that...sucks to be you............. FIN

[tourniquet]

chupid indian people again; most of them don't realize that the handout/ gimme gimme syndrome is a black people only thing

[rodfarva]

rodfarva, like you lost or you want to see this your way because of ...well whatever
again I'm saying, if you're not interested in getting a job in a certain place, how can you complain about not being employed there...is that clear enough??? Stop trying to obfuscate my point by changing it around to talk about service recieved that's not what is being discussed
Also I never said they made no contributions nor was that implied anywhere, what I'm saying (again in simple English) if you're enjoying the rewards of your labour in ways that are above the means of many why cry discrimination? Are Indians crying cause they not getting CEPEP, Police, Army, Fire Service jobs??? So where exactly is the discrimination, sounds more like "We want it all" syndrome......... if you can't comprehend that...sucks to be you............. FIN

I'm lost?

You seem to fail to understand how the PUBLIC sector works.

These are not private companies. They are answerable to the Public. Even if they have administration, that administration is answerable to the Ministry, which is answerable to the public.

I have NO slant on this. If you feel as though I do, I suggest you re read all I have typed.

You are speaking about the public sector as though its privately owned and operated. Its not. ANYONE is entitled to his/her opinion about it.

[eliteauto]

chupid indian people again; most of them don't realize that the handout/ gimme gimme syndrome is a black people only thing

Exactly...and if I was Manning and I give you $1mil for your event and rest $1.1mill on another and after you take the cash you run and bawl discrimination I'll blank yuh kant next year and donate some newspaper clippings

[TheSuperNova]

chupid indian people again; most of them don't realize that the handout/ gimme gimme syndrome is a black people only thing

Exactly...and if I was Manning and I give you $1mil for your event and rest $1.1mill on another and after you take the cash you run and bawl discrimination I'll blank yuh kant next year and donate some newspaper clippings

AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS......RIGHT?

[r3iXmann]

rodfarva, *ziiiiiiiing* apparently you're not following what I typed, so lemme break it down, when racism is being highlighted particularly by East Indians, who is at the forefront of such a cry? It's the educated, well-off so called "brahmins" who write newspaper articles and give news conferences, they are also the same ones who cry about discrimination/ethnic cleansing in the public service, fact is they don't want/desire/need to work there, but yet still cry about oppression whist eating off the fat of the land...get it?

Agreed 100%

[DrunkenMaster16]

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